Comments on: Time and Eternity

By: Andre Rabe

Andre Rabe — Sun, 03 May 2009 18:00:13 +0000

Roddy. Makes me think of the order of Melchizedek – having no beginning of days nor end of life. And we can trace our beginning to the ‘Logos’ – the Word – which also has no beginning nor end – what an awesome thought. ‘I am the Alpha and the Omega – the beginning and the end’ He doesn’t say: “I was the beginning and will be the end”, but “I am” … In this place God is both at once, so in that sense it does seem timeless to us … but His very next words are: “who was and is and is to come”. So I see God inhabits both eternity and He fills all of time. You are so right in saying this fellowship we enjoy with Him takes us into a realm very different from the natural dimensions of time and space – into the realm where all things are possible.

By: Roddy

Roddy — Sun, 03 May 2009 11:28:36 +0000

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Hi Andre ,
There is something i want to add to the pondering of time and eternity . God is outside of time , space and eternity .Simply because these areall createdby him . I think we can confuse eternity with eternal life . They are not thesame . Eternity is created , eternal life is the un-created life of God . When God sai s he has set eternity in the hearts of men ,its the desire for a place ,our home , our natural habitat , we are home sick for eden , we are designedto naturally live in theraelmof these seen and the unseen eternal realm thats why we will live on a new heaven and a new earth , we belong to both realms .Events will unfold in these realms to reveal the riches of his grace and kindness towards us in Christ.In this eternal drama we will be both spectators and partcipators as we already are now.However our fellowship with God is outside of time , space and eternity . We have access through Christ to this sacred un-created/eternal life of God . Time does literally stand still here ,this is the place of no time , time was a created thing . This eternal life , the uncreated life of God, is a higher form of life than Adam/Eve had before the fall . The life they had was the created life of God , as it could be infused with spiritual death . However the essential difference in quality of the uncreated\eternal life we have in Christ after the fall , is that this Life (real life) has passed through death and cannot be touched by it again , so the life we have in Christ is as immortal as God himself . Understanding that this life is uncreated is important when it comes to fellowship with the Godhead . We have been invited into the fellowship of love between the Father and the Son by means of the spirit. This fellowship has a “timeless quality” to it , the early christians and the mystics understood this distinctive and qualitative difference .I know this timeless quality is something that you and others will have experienced in your fellowship with Him .Just thought i would throw this into the mix .Learning to fellowship with our indwelling Lord outside of time , space and eternity is vital to understand if we are to learn to walk with the Lord inwardly by his life .Which is our calling . Right!

By: Andre Rabe

Andre Rabe — Fri, 01 May 2009 10:02:47 +0000

Jeanie, I thought about this spiritual ‘sense’ as well. My best attempt at defining it within a word would be ‘appreciation’. I discovered the word ‘aesthete’ a while ago, it means:Someone who cultivates an unusually high sensitivity & appreciation for beauty! Isn’t that exactly what this great Gospel reveals – the beauty of God’s thoughts toward us – woooooha!
Have a look at: hearhim.net/connect

By: Jeanie Killion

Jeanie Killion — Fri, 01 May 2009 04:43:19 +0000

Hi Andre,
Beautiful, wonderful, glorious truths you have explored and so clearly conveyed in writing! May God continue to reveal more and more of Himself and His perspectives to you who so faithfully share with others seeking to know Him more deeply. I have often contemplated that what we, in our human existance, sense with our five physical senses hints at some things we have yet to discover about God. Such as the mention in scripture that our praises rise up to God as a sweet smelling savor. He “smells” our praises? The mention of him spewing the lukewarm out of His mouth . . . He “tastes” the sincere passion or the indifference of men’s hearts? There are other such references and I don’t mean to anthropomorphize nor to over-analyze. These are just interesting things I have pondered. Maybe they don’t really matter much, but in digging around in the rich soil of God’s Word, it is fun to ponder the meaning of such things. Of course, as we read in I Corinthians 13, all we know now is partial and will be replaced with full understanding when we see Him who loved us first – face to face. Glory to God. God bless.

By: Andre Rabe

Andre Rabe — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:34:26 +0000

Who better to define eternity than Jesus. He said: This is eternal life:that they may know You, the only true God, and the One You have sent – Jesus Christ.
Eternal life has much more to do with God and our intimacy with Him, than it has to do with a long period of time.
Have a look at: http://hearhim.net/wordpress/2008/01/13/string-theory-extra-dimensions-and-the-symphony-of-life/

By: Suzy Nicholas

Suzy Nicholas — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:19:06 +0000

Hi precious Andre
I really enjoyed your post on time and eternity. First I’ve ever heard, but wow thought provoking ..big time!!!
Did you get my message from grace revolution the other day?
Please send me your or M-A’s email address. Awesome Blessings and much grace, love Suzy

By: Andre Rabe

Andre Rabe — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:36:13 +0000

Danie, what wonderful thoughts: a day like a thousand years and a thousand years like a day – there is no speeding up or slowing down of time, but both are equally true at once. Our God fills all of time and eternity and He made His home in Me!

By: Danie Kotze

Danie Kotze — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:10:26 +0000

Hi Andre
Great, a study in it’s own
Correct me if I am wrong, I do believe theres a difference between the time in the spiritual realm and the physical realm (as I call it)2 Pet.3 says a thousand years is like a day to the Lord. Rev.1 says I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. Also all the scriptures that refer to Before the foundation of the world – The Lamb, was slain – Before Abraham was, I am and more.
I think we should measure time in spiritual realm with Tachyond as He could be in the past – present – future in the same time as the physical we could only be in the present. So we had to measure it with seconds, hours, days and years.
The fullness of time – He has finish everything before the foundation of the world. From the beginning to the end all included in Christ. You – Me = ALL
That time did overflow into our time – God revealed Himself in the flesh – His mind was made known, now we have the mind of Christ to understand and His Spirit revealed to us the mystery that was hidden
Our time is in Christ hidden in God, thats why I agree with you that the present contained everything that the future had to offer

By: Andre Rabe

Andre Rabe — Sat, 25 Apr 2009 15:24:23 +0000

Roddy, you always inspire me. We are planning a week wordschool in August (2-9). Would be great to see you! Let me know

By: Roddy

Roddy — Sat, 25 Apr 2009 14:53:28 +0000

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Hi Andre ,
Great stuff . The Lord seems to be be giving you much depth of insight into the mystery of Christ before creation ,which is always Pauls starting point for the believers understanding of who they are in Christ.Paul with consummate ease knew the believer had the ability to grasp the incomprehensible eternal dimensions of being in Christ . Eph 3v3-4 Paul confidently assummes in reading his account of the mystery of Christ made known by revelation that we would be able to understand his insight into the mystery of Christ . 1John 2v21 expresses the same idea that the believer has an innate knowledge of the truth built into his spirit.iJohn 5v11 The testimony of God is in our hearts. This is Gods testimony in our hearts that he has given us the Life of his Son that is eternal able to grasp the eternal dimensions of our true existence in Christ . Continue speaking the eternal truth of our existencein Christ confidently knowing that Gods people are already knowers , some just dont know they know , but they will know they know ,when they hear it from you brother . God is revealing the mystery that he wants to be made known through you my friend ,that is already in the hearts of Gods people . Declare it boldly …LoveRoddy