Comments on: What was God thinking!? http://hearhim.net/wordpress/2007/08/19/what-was-god-thinking/ Today, when you hear His voice, listen ... Heb 4 Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:10:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Jeanne http://hearhim.net/wordpress/2007/08/19/what-was-god-thinking/comment-page-1/#comment-6236 Jeanne Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:07:17 +0000 http://hearhim.net/wordpress/2007/08/19/what-was-god-thinking/#comment-6236 Theo jr, please share more. Or how can one access more on those thoughts. Theo jr, please share more. Or how can one access more on those thoughts.

]]> By: Tim http://hearhim.net/wordpress/2007/08/19/what-was-god-thinking/comment-page-1/#comment-6234 Tim Wed, 07 Nov 2007 00:03:29 +0000 http://hearhim.net/wordpress/2007/08/19/what-was-god-thinking/#comment-6234 Hi, I agree with you pertaining almost everything you say about God and His "thoughts" before the creation of the universe. However, when you add the dilemma of the angels also failing to live in a way the was pleasing to the creator, I believe any thoughts of creation must also take this into the plan God (Logos) had in creating man. Since God new man would fail, He must have also realized why it would be that they would fail; namely the Serpent. And through all the history of man from Adam, the Serpent played a major role in swaying man from making a decision he may not have made without the Accuser's false information always at play around us. Going back to the topic of "angels" (messengers), they were probably called something else when their period of history existed before the fall, and I believe their civilization also lasted much longer than the civilization of man since Satan (possibly called Lucifer) was highest in authority (High Priest) of God over that civilization. Pride entered into his heart and from there it was all down hill. A war began between those who were still loyal to God and those who disloyal. In your opinion, did Logos plan the civilization of "angels" from the end to the beginning when He first created them without any thought of man ever being created or did he know the angels would fall and knew man would fall and so His planning took both civilizations into account? Also, since the "angels" fell, did God also have a plan of salvation for those who did not revolt against him? By the one sin Adam fell and all after him. When Satan (Lucifer?) fell from grace by pride, was his sin also passed on to all other "angels" just as Adams sin was passed onto all man? Did Jesus' death give salvation to the "angels" and man or was there salvation given to the angels who did not follow in the way of pride at some other time in history before man was created. As I said, I agree on just about everything you said in your article "What was God Thinking?" but there are so many additional variables we cannot ever hope to comprehend, it is hard to say for sure anything about why God created us except to love us and we in return to worship Him for the reasons you gave. Hi, I agree with you pertaining almost everything you say about God and His “thoughts” before the creation of the universe. However, when you add the dilemma of the angels also failing to live in a way the was pleasing to the creator, I believe any thoughts of creation must also take this into the plan God (Logos) had in creating man. Since God new man would fail, He must have also realized why it would be that they would fail; namely the Serpent. And through all the history of man from Adam, the Serpent played a major role in swaying man from making a decision he may not have made without the Accuser’s false information always at play around us. Going back to the topic of “angels” (messengers), they were probably called something else when their period of history existed before the fall, and I believe their civilization also lasted much longer than the civilization of man since Satan (possibly called Lucifer) was highest in authority (High Priest) of God over that civilization. Pride entered into his heart and from there it was all down hill. A war began between those who were still loyal to God and those who disloyal.
In your opinion, did Logos plan the civilization of “angels” from the end to the beginning when He first created them without any thought of man ever being created or did he know the angels would fall and knew man would fall and so His planning took both civilizations into account?
Also, since the “angels” fell, did God also have a plan of salvation for those who did not revolt against him? By the one sin Adam fell and all after him. When Satan (Lucifer?) fell from grace by pride, was his sin also passed on to all other “angels” just as Adams sin was passed onto all man? Did Jesus’ death give salvation to the “angels” and man or was there salvation given to the angels who did not follow in the way of pride at some other time in history before man was created.
As I said, I agree on just about everything you said in your article “What was God Thinking?” but there are so many additional variables we cannot ever hope to comprehend, it is hard to say for sure anything about why God created us except to love us and we in return to worship Him for the reasons you gave.

]]> By: Roddy http://hearhim.net/wordpress/2007/08/19/what-was-god-thinking/comment-page-1/#comment-6222 Roddy Mon, 17 Sep 2007 20:33:12 +0000 http://hearhim.net/wordpress/2007/08/19/what-was-god-thinking/#comment-6222 Hi Andre, Re :recent article on the Logos .Some thoughts to share in relation to the love of God . For sometime my prayer life has been reduced to a longing with-in my heart to know and be brought by the the Spirit into the ultimate issues of Gods heart.I have found myself many times saying to the Lord let me see what it was that John saw in you , what Mary Magdelene saw in you , what Paul saw in you that made them love you so much.These yearnings almost intensified to the extent that found myself often begging the Lord in prayer to show me what it is in the Father He sees that causes him to love him so much and asking the Father to show me what it is in his Son that causes Him to love him so much.As i began to make these daring requests i began to wait , watch and listen not knowing that he had put these longings in my spirit.I now know these innate longings are organic and native to every child of God The Holy Spirit has a work to do to find the lost child in us and bring him consciuosly into this intimate union.My holy quest was expressed in my desire to know what they know , see what they see and feel what they feel.There is much i could say about this journey but i just wanted to touch upon an aspect of the love of God that has taken my breath away in its beauty and awe . Much of my communion with the Lord lately has been beholding the zeal and fire of his passion for his beloved spouse . This consuming passion is seen in the cross and has completely altered my negative/distorted perception of the judgement of God . The judgement of God to behold is a vision of sheer beauty as it has behind it the consuming passion of Gods love to remove every hindrance to him bringing his church into an intimate bridal relationship with him.The Lord is releasing into the body of christ in these last days a revelation of her bridal relationship which will characterize her more than anythingelse in this age.The church in various localities around the world will be a testimony to principalities and powers and to this world of a corprate expression of a love affair between bridegroom Jesus christ and his bride.However i see that a new understanding of the judgement of God must be embraced in the hearts of Gods. For many of the Lords people have not seen the zeal of Gods love to own and possess them as his own . I see in the zeal of His love a burning desire to have no rival to it in the secret place of our hearts. There is a hidden work of preparation on inside of us towards this end . The vision that brother Willem had will i believe become the vision that captivates our hearts as his bride is passion of Gods heart and the focus of all his intentions. Hi Andre,
Re :recent article on the Logos .Some thoughts to share in relation to the love of God . For sometime my prayer life has been reduced to a longing with-in my heart to know and be brought by the the Spirit into the ultimate issues of Gods heart.I have found myself many times saying to the Lord let me see what it was that John saw in you , what Mary Magdelene saw in you , what Paul saw in you that made them love you so much.These yearnings almost intensified to the extent that found myself often begging the Lord in prayer to show me what it is in the Father He sees that causes him to love him so much and asking the Father to show me what it is in his Son that causes Him to love him so much.As i began to make these daring requests i began to wait , watch and listen not knowing that he had put these longings in my spirit.I now know these innate longings are organic and native to every child of God The Holy Spirit has a work to do to find the lost child in us and bring him consciuosly into this intimate union.My holy quest was expressed in my desire to know what they know , see what they see and feel what they feel.There is much i could say about this journey but i just wanted to touch upon an aspect of the love of God that has taken my breath away in its beauty and awe . Much of my communion with the Lord lately has been beholding the zeal and fire of his passion for his beloved spouse . This consuming passion is seen in the cross and has completely altered my negative/distorted perception of the judgement of God . The judgement of God to behold is a vision of sheer beauty as it has behind it the consuming passion of Gods love to remove every hindrance to him bringing his church into an intimate bridal relationship with him.The Lord is releasing into the body of christ in these last days a revelation of her bridal relationship which will characterize her more than anythingelse in this age.The church in various localities around the world will be a testimony to principalities and powers and to this world of a corprate expression of a love affair between bridegroom Jesus christ and his bride.However i see that a new understanding of the judgement of God must be embraced in the hearts of Gods. For many of the Lords people have not seen the zeal of Gods love to own and possess them as his own . I see in the zeal of His love a burning desire to have no rival to it in the secret place of our hearts. There is a hidden work of preparation on inside of us towards this end . The vision that brother Willem had will i believe become the vision that captivates our hearts as his bride is passion of Gods heart and the focus of all his intentions.

]]> By: Dawie http://hearhim.net/wordpress/2007/08/19/what-was-god-thinking/comment-page-1/#comment-6221 Dawie Mon, 17 Sep 2007 07:16:55 +0000 http://hearhim.net/wordpress/2007/08/19/what-was-god-thinking/#comment-6221 Hi Read some powerful stuff in one of Gene Edwards' latest books: "The day I was Crucified" as told by Jesus Christ... he's seeing the same diamond from another view, beautiful, tapped into the heart of God. I'll post some quotes soon... Hi
Read some powerful stuff in one of Gene Edwards’ latest books: “The day I was Crucified” as told by Jesus Christ… he’s seeing the same diamond from another view, beautiful, tapped into the heart of God. I’ll post some quotes soon…

]]> By: Francois du Toit http://hearhim.net/wordpress/2007/08/19/what-was-god-thinking/comment-page-1/#comment-6220 Francois du Toit Sun, 16 Sep 2007 18:13:12 +0000 http://hearhim.net/wordpress/2007/08/19/what-was-god-thinking/#comment-6220 beautiful stuff Roddy!! we know that the son of God has come and has given us understanding to know Him who is true and we are in Him who is true! 1John 5:20 beautiful stuff Roddy!! we know that the son of God has come and has given us understanding to know Him who is true
and we are in Him who is true! 1John 5:20

]]> By: Andre Rabe http://hearhim.net/wordpress/2007/08/19/what-was-god-thinking/comment-page-1/#comment-6216 Andre Rabe Sun, 02 Sep 2007 18:03:19 +0000 http://hearhim.net/wordpress/2007/08/19/what-was-god-thinking/#comment-6216 Hi Roddy - Thanks for that. He is in love! ... and so are we. The feeling is mutual. His original thought is as inspired and fresh today as when He first thought it. He knew that His love would awaken in us an equal response ... His thoughts toward us would awaken in us thoughts of equal quality and adoration. What a God; what a friend; what a lover. Hi Roddy – Thanks for that. He is in love! … and so are we. The feeling is mutual. His original thought is as inspired and fresh today as when He first thought it. He knew that His love would awaken in us an equal response … His thoughts toward us would awaken in us thoughts of equal quality and adoration. What a God; what a friend; what a lover.

]]> By: Roddy http://hearhim.net/wordpress/2007/08/19/what-was-god-thinking/comment-page-1/#comment-6215 Roddy Sun, 02 Sep 2007 17:49:14 +0000 http://hearhim.net/wordpress/2007/08/19/what-was-god-thinking/#comment-6215 Hi Andre , Ive been meaning to respond for sometime. The Spirit in us searches "all" things even the deep things of Christ . Im always amazed to think that when Paul spoke to the early church about the unsearchable riches of Christ he almost seems to take for granted that these mostly illiterate saints had the capacity to comprehend the incomprehensible. What the mind has not concieved nor entered the heart of man Paul knew that without effort the saints had the ability to grasp with-out effort . Paul spoke to the saints about things he knew they knew even though they had never been taught it. His starting point was always Christ before creation. That primordial time when God was the all.It is in this place that we get some hints to your question what was God thinking.There are many mysterious plans and purposes going on inside the fellowship of the Godhead .Of which much could be said.However what i think is a much over-looked and central theme on Gods heart for all time and eternity is the unfolding of a divine romance . God has cherished a secret in His heart and and our lives are dynamically caught up in the drama of this divine romance.The essence of all Gods thoughts and essential purpose of our existance is revealed here. God gives us some insight into this mystery by beautiful picture of Adam and Eve.Inside of adam there was a women his counterpart who would put to sleep and taken from his side and be sculpted out of his DNA and very essence of his being. Inside of your Lord there is women she is the most beautiful women in creation as she looks just like her Lover . This women has been hidden inside of Jesus/Christ her lover for all eternity . He is courting this women whilst she is here on this earth but she is not of this earth.History and the consummation of the ages is destined by the marraige of these two lovers . The bride is destined to be the His wife . Nothing surer. In this she rejoices and is being adorned by him for that day.What was God thinking eh!!!!! He is in love my friend. Hi Andre ,
Ive been meaning to respond for sometime. The Spirit in us searches “all” things even the deep things of Christ . Im always amazed to think that when Paul spoke to the early church about the unsearchable riches of Christ he almost seems to take for granted that these mostly illiterate saints had the capacity to comprehend the incomprehensible. What the mind has not concieved nor entered the heart of man Paul knew that without effort the saints had the ability to grasp with-out effort . Paul spoke to the saints about things he knew they knew even though they had never been taught it. His starting point was always Christ before creation. That primordial time when God was the all.It is in this place that we get some hints to your question what was God thinking.There are many mysterious plans and purposes going on inside the fellowship of the Godhead .Of which much could be said.However what i think is a much over-looked and central theme on Gods heart for all time and eternity is the unfolding of a divine romance . God has cherished a secret in His heart and and our lives are dynamically caught up in the drama of this divine romance.The essence of all Gods thoughts and essential purpose of our existance is revealed here. God gives us some insight into this mystery by beautiful picture of Adam and Eve.Inside of adam there was a women his counterpart who would put to sleep and taken from his side and be sculpted out of his DNA and very essence of his being. Inside of your Lord there is women she is the most beautiful women in creation as she looks just like her Lover . This women has been hidden inside of Jesus/Christ her lover for all eternity . He is courting this women whilst she is here on this earth but she is not of this earth.History and the consummation of the ages is destined by the marraige of these two lovers . The bride is destined to be the His wife . Nothing surer. In this she rejoices and is being adorned by him for that day.What was God thinking eh!!!!! He is in love my friend.

]]> By: Andre Rabe http://hearhim.net/wordpress/2007/08/19/what-was-god-thinking/comment-page-1/#comment-6213 Andre Rabe Thu, 30 Aug 2007 08:21:18 +0000 http://hearhim.net/wordpress/2007/08/19/what-was-god-thinking/#comment-6213 Don and Sue - thanks for the comments. I'm on the Cornwall coast at the moments with limited access to the internet. Have been refining the article thanks to all the good thoughts coming through ... will update soon. Don and Sue – thanks for the comments. I’m on the Cornwall coast at the moments with limited access to the internet. Have been refining the article thanks to all the good thoughts coming through … will update soon.

]]> By: Don R http://hearhim.net/wordpress/2007/08/19/what-was-god-thinking/comment-page-1/#comment-6212 Don R Wed, 29 Aug 2007 22:18:00 +0000 http://hearhim.net/wordpress/2007/08/19/what-was-god-thinking/#comment-6212 I love this part of your comment in answer to Craig (a great comment by the way). "it is for people to come to a realization (remembering) of who they truly are, and enjoying the benefit of intimacy with our maker. " Our problem is we are addicted to form, our bodies, instead of our true nature (the spirit). Great post which I really enjoyed. I love this part of your comment in answer to Craig (a great comment by the way).
“it is for people to come to a realization (remembering) of who they truly are, and enjoying the benefit of intimacy with our maker. ”
Our problem is we are addicted to form, our bodies, instead of our true nature (the spirit). Great post which I really enjoyed.

]]> By: Sue http://hearhim.net/wordpress/2007/08/19/what-was-god-thinking/comment-page-1/#comment-6211 Sue Wed, 29 Aug 2007 12:53:27 +0000 http://hearhim.net/wordpress/2007/08/19/what-was-god-thinking/#comment-6211 Andre, this is fantastic. Keep going with it - beautiful, water-ey words :) Sue Andre, this is fantastic. Keep going with it – beautiful, water-ey words :)

Sue

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