Comments on: Back to the beginning

By: Andre Rabe

Andre Rabe — Mon, 02 Jul 2007 05:40:44 +0000

Thanks Oscar. When I read your comment, I immediately thought of James 1: “….if snyone hears the word he is like a man beholding the face of his birth … but he who looks deeply, into the perfect law of liberty, and remains therein …” There is certainly treasure to be discovered by looking deeply …

By: oscar

oscar — Mon, 02 Jul 2007 03:38:24 +0000

This is perhaps the greatest post for you Andre. I am very much into this concept. Then we can understand more what Paul meant when he said that we died and rose with Christ and that we are now seated with Him at the right hand of the father. Also it means we are in the only begotten of the father… which also means we were created in him before the earth was. It gets exciting when we start skimming the surface of our salvation and discover the real truth. Of course this is all in the spirit, and can not be understood with our earthly thinking. God is Spirit, we must worship Him in Spirit and in truth.

By: Andre Rabe

Andre Rabe — Sun, 01 Jul 2007 08:34:14 +0000

Beautiful Craig. Reminds me of 1John 2:7,8 – that which seems new to us, has been since the beginning. The new creation is a return to the original intent and imagination of God. It is indeed new in our experience and in our awareness & knowledge, but He knew the end from the beginning.

By: Craig

Craig — Sat, 30 Jun 2007 12:55:59 +0000

In our bible study we have been trying to look deeper into this issue of identity.
Isaiah 55 speaks of the thoughts of God being way above those of man. The question is:
Thoughts of God in respect of what? Later on in the chapter we read “In place of the
thorn tree shall come up the myrtle…”
God sent his Word to communicate His thought concerning man, and concerning the
origin and identity of man. He sent a mirror, a living picture of our true self.
Christ was both the exact image of God and of man.
In one of Francois du Toits’ books he paraphrases Acts 17:29 as “How can we possibly
reduce our thought of God in our imagination to anything less than what He was able to
express in His offspring?”
It seems to me then that where Paul speaks of the New Creation, this is actually the
discovery that we are not who we thought we were. The New Creation is born by faith
(our persuasion of what God sees). He says that we died with Christ, and were given
re-birth at His resurrection. It seems to me though that this took place
in God’s mind before creation, and that Adam was born out of Christ.